Curse

Craero · May 01, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

At the very least I'd expect the odd purple, but I don't even get that.
Heck... I don't even get blues aside from the scrolls.

This never occurred with my Assassin when I was flag-soloing bosses deeper in the level in normal mode... and that was when the message still showed up for some folks. -_-; .... Maybe I ought to take my heroes with me and flag them back at the start.

Did you miss the update note: All loot but rare items now scales to party size?

Here's an example of vermin farming:

Since you seem to respond so well to pictures
Pre-Hard mode

5 minutes ago

Llint · May 01, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

And I suppose if an A-Net representative was cutting your arm off with a hack-saw and told you there was no hack-saw... you'd believe them then too?

If anything, the only part of the anti-farming code they've removed is the actual pop-up window that would tell you it was active.

To claim bad luck is soley to blame for my getting 6 runs of really good drops from Byzzr Wingmender (as mentioned somewhere: 4 of his green, 3 elite monk tomes, 2 fow scrolls, 1 uw scroll, alongside whites and cash).... then effectively nothing from him for the next 15 or so runs, nothing higher than infrequent whites (one drop from every 4 of them) from around 30 minotaurs... and nothing more than adventurer scrolls from Chkkr Brightclaw for now coming up to 30 runs.... is ridiculous.

At the very least I'd expect the odd purple, but I don't even get that.
Heck... I don't even get blues aside from the scrolls.

This never occurred with my Assassin when I was flag-soloing bosses deeper in the level in normal mode... and that was when the message still showed up for some folks. -_-; .... Maybe I ought to take my heroes with me and flag them back at the start.

You should be glad you've got anything from Byzzr, I've killed him like 20 times and havn't gotten one drop.

SotiCoto · May 01, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

I didn't miss a thing...

And for the record, a few notes:
#1. I've not even had a single person's worth of drops... I'd know, as I've played in full hero/hench parties a lot and know the amount of stuff I tend to get from that. I've been getting less... quite a bit less.
#2. The past few times I've had the same deal actually having heroes and henchies with me, and keeping them flagged back.... something which always worked before for farming rare items.

And perhaps you'd care to check the odds on this one:
That between those two bosses... and the 40 to 50 odd times I killed them... that the 4 greens and 6 golds I got ALL occurred in the first 5 kills.

Check that against a normal distribution curve and tell me where those sorta odds fall, assuming random chance...
Do they even fall within two standard distributions of the mean? Do they?

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Originally Posted by Llint

You should be glad you've got anything from Byzzr, I've killed him like 20 times and havn't gotten one drop.

I'd guess you were farming somewhere else before...
Byzzr was the first thing I ever tried to farm with my Necro... and the first thing I've ever tried to farm in Hard Mode full stop. The closest I ever came to that before were lengthy runs with my Assassin in Normal way back to get Sskai's Sword.... and I never ran into any such problems.

Llint · May 01, 2007, 11:18 PM // 23:18

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

I didn't miss a thing...

And for the record, a few notes:
#1. I've not even had a single person's worth of drops... I'd know, as I've played in full hero/hench parties a lot and know the amount of stuff I tend to get from that. I've been getting less... quite a bit less.
#2. The past few times I've had the same deal actually having heroes and henchies with me, and keeping them flagged back.... something which always worked before for farming rare items.

And perhaps you'd care to check the odds on this one:
That between those two bosses... and the 40 to 50 odd times I killed them... that the 4 greens and 6 golds I got ALL occurred in the first 5 kills.

Check that against a normal distribution curve and tell me where those sorta odds fall, assuming random chance...
Do they even fall within two standard distributions of the mean? Do they?

I get the usual solo farming, so either you are fooling yourself into thinking that ANet is messing with you, or that everyone but me, or a select few are receiving problems.

I cant deny that the amount of gold drops seemed to have been reduced, but I cant say I disagree with that either. It could have just been chance to when you kill the boss the first couple of times ANet was still reviewing the drop rate. And then after reduced it based on observations.

Also, I'm not sure if you're aware or not, the drops in GW aren't truly random.

Craero · May 02, 2007, 12:21 AM // 00:21

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

And perhaps you'd care to check the odds on this one:
That between those two bosses... and the 40 to 50 odd times I killed them... that the 4 greens and 6 golds I got ALL occurred in the first 5 kills.

Check that against a normal distribution curve and tell me where those sorta odds fall, assuming random chance...
Do they even fall within two standard distributions of the mean? Do they?

Your green drops: 4 out of ~45 trys = 8.888...% drop rate... That's near normal

Your gold drops: 6 out of ~45 kills = 13.333...% drop rate from bosses. Still normal

Just because it's hard mode doesn't mean you're going to get a gold weapon from every creature you kill solo.

SotiCoto · May 02, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07

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Originally Posted by Craero

Your green drops: 4 out of ~45 trys = 8.888...% drop rate... That's near normal

Your gold drops: 6 out of ~45 kills = 13.333...% drop rate from bosses. Still normal

Just because it's hard mode doesn't mean you're going to get a gold weapon from every creature you kill solo.

... You're missing a hefty chunk of the figures.

It isn't just 4 and 6 out of 45.... It is 4 and 6 all in the first 5... out of 45.
I wouldn't even be making this complaint if I'd been getting nothing for 10 drops... then something... then another 10 without... then something.
I'm complaining because it was lots, lots, lots, lots, lots, less, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing etc.

And to add to that I killed Chkkr Brightclaw again about 6 times this morning (and watched him get killed by plants accidentally another 5).... and as stupid as it might sound I got more from helping him kill the plant patrol than I did actually killing him. THAT probably isn't related to anti-farming code at all though... I have no clue what that is (I've had two purples and two dragon roots from the plant patrol so far, out of about 9 such total kills... and yet had about the same number of items, whites and scrolls, from Chkkr despite killing him more than three or four times as often).

In any case.... I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and continuing to try rather than just giving up or trying to kill any potential anti-farming code by playing normally with that char for a while (apparently playing normally with ANOTHER character doesn't help). I don't like to feel like I'm wasting my time though... and killing Chkkr Brightwing Solo in Hard Mode is currently getting me less loot of any kind than playing through the entirety of Melandru's Hope on normal with a full team would.